{"id":12201,"date":"2021-06-30T17:30:13","date_gmt":"2021-06-30T15:30:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.software-developer-india.com\/india-vs-ukraina-hvilke-utviklere-er-bedre\/"},"modified":"2021-07-04T15:24:52","modified_gmt":"2021-07-04T13:24:52","slug":"india-vs-ukraina-hvilke-utviklere-er-bedre","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.software-developer-india.com\/no\/india-vs-ukraina-hvilke-utviklere-er-bedre\/","title":{"rendered":"India vs Ukraina: Hvilke utviklere er bedre?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">India vs Ukraina: Hvilke utviklere er bedre?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.software-developer-india.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/Outsourcing.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"575\" height=\"250\" src=\"https:\/\/www.software-developer-india.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/Outsourcing.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3340\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.software-developer-india.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/Outsourcing.jpg 575w, https:\/\/www.software-developer-india.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/Outsourcing-300x130.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 575px) 100vw, 575px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nylig var det et sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l om Quora, den<a href=\"https:\/\/www.quora.com\/Where-is-better-to-outsource-India-or-Ukraine\"><u> hvilket sted er bedre \u00e5 outsource<\/u><\/a> , eller hvilke utviklere som er bedre. S\u00f8r-Asia eller Ukraina? Her et fors\u00f8k p\u00e5 svar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Flott sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l! Og definitivt ikke lett \u00e5 svare p\u00e5.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">La meg pr\u00f8ve \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Jeg tror det ikke er mulig \u00e5 si at for eksempel en indisk utvikler er bedre er bedre enn en ukrainsk utvikler eller omvendt.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Det f\u00f8rste vi b\u00f8r sammenligne er den samlede statistikken og situasjonen:<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Tall:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><strong>Antall utviklere i India:<\/strong> omtrent 5 millioner<\/li><li><strong>Antall utviklere i Ukraina:<\/strong> 50\u2032000 til 90\u2032000<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Merk: Her ser vi en enorm forskjell. Et selskap som Tata Consultancy Services har allerede ansatte, har mer enn 380 000 ansatte, hvorav definitivt 300 000 IT-fagfolk. Det ville i seg selv v\u00e6re rundt tre til fire ganger hele ukrainske IT-bransjer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Politisk stabilitet:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><strong>Ukraina:<\/strong> Det raser en krig i Ukraina. Det er ikke i EU og st\u00e5r nesten alene mot en av de st\u00f8rste supermaktene i verden (Russland). Dette p\u00e5virker valutaen s\u00e5 vel som viljen til \u00e5 bli i landet.<\/li><li><strong>India:<\/strong> Nesten ingen politisk ustabilitet. Det eneste som kan kalles ut, er kvinnens sikkerhet. Men det kan h\u00e5ndteres med riktige sikkerhetstiltak.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.software-developer-india.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/India_and_Ukraine.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"575\" height=\"200\" src=\"https:\/\/www.software-developer-india.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/India_and_Ukraine.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3342\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.software-developer-india.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/India_and_Ukraine.jpg 575w, https:\/\/www.software-developer-india.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/India_and_Ukraine-300x104.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 575px) 100vw, 575px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Absolutte tall mot prosentandel<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Jeg m\u00e5 innr\u00f8mme at hvis du ser p\u00e5 prosentandelen av gode utviklere, s\u00e5 m\u00e5 vi v\u00e6re enige med Edward Robe som hevder at det er veldig d\u00e5rlige IT-fagpersoner p\u00e5 subkontinentet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dette har \u00e5 gj\u00f8re med:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><strong>DET er ikke et valg:<\/strong> I Ukraina kan en gutt g\u00e5 inn i IT, fordi han \/ hun virkelig elsker det. I India er det mer som &laquo;Foreldre sier: G\u00e5 inn i IT, gode jobbutsikter&raquo;. S\u00e5 ikke mye valg &#8230;<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Men: Det kan v\u00e6re sant at 50 prosent av 90 000-utviklerne kan v\u00e6re toppkodere. Det ville v\u00e6re rundt 45 000 flotte kodere!<br>Jeg ser noen problemer her.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I India er det rundt 5 millioner kodere. Og det er sant at prosentandelen gode kodere kan v\u00e6re mye mindre. Kan v\u00e6re 20 prosent. Men det ville fortsatt v\u00e6re rundt 1 million mennesker, noe som er rundt 20 ganger mer enn i v\u00e5rt \u00f8steuropeiske sammenligningsland!<br>S\u00e5 det absolutte antallet gode IT-fagpersoner er h\u00f8yere i India.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Koste<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Alle som har v\u00e6rt i denne bransjen en stund vet det. Prisene p\u00e5 subkontinentet har holdt seg de siste \u00e5rene. Ikke mye endring.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kostnaden for \u00e5 outsource er veldig lav, mens kodingsstandardene blir bedre for dagen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Det er selvf\u00f8lgelig sant at Ukraina er et outsourcingm\u00e5l av h\u00f8y kvalitet. Men det folk ofte glemmer er at kostnadene har steget uforholdsmessig. Noen selskaper vil belaste 6000 amerikanske dollar og mer for en IT-profesjonell p\u00e5 heltid per m\u00e5ned.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dette er ikke overkommelig for mange selskaper. Og det har ikke noe \u00e5 si for de ukrainske IT-selskapene, for det er nok selskaper som har r\u00e5d til \u00e5 betale disse prisene, slik at alle de 90&#8217;000 utviklerne blir brukt.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Konklusjon<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sant: Outsourcing til Ukraina er absolutt et alternativ.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Det er noen fordeler:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><strong>N\u00e6rhet:<\/strong> Om noen timer kan et lag i Ukraina n\u00e5 vesteuropeiske land.<\/li><li><strong>Kulturell n\u00e6rhet:<\/strong> Etter at jernteppet (kald krig) falt, har dette landet \u00e5pnet seg for vestlig kultur og har blitt mer lik de landene.<\/li><li><strong>H\u00f8y kvalitet:<\/strong> Som jeg nevnte f\u00f8r. Folk blir kodere, fordi de elsker det. S\u00e5 du kan forvente en h\u00f8yere kvalitet.<\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Ulemper:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Har allerede blitt nevnt i dette innlegget:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><strong>Det er ikke mange ressurser tilgjengelig:<\/strong> 90\u2032000 mot 5\u2032000\u2032000. Derfor kan du slite med \u00e5 bygge st\u00f8rre lag.<\/li><li><strong>Pris:<\/strong> Prisene kan v\u00e6re veldig h\u00f8ye. Ikke rimelig for mindre selskaper.<\/li><li><strong>Stabilitet:<\/strong> Hvis krigen eskalerer, vet vi ikke engang om en jevn drift kan garanteres.<\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Her outsource til India sammenligning:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Fordeler:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><strong>Mange tilgjengelige utviklere:<\/strong> Hvis riktig valgt, kan de 20 prosent av gode kodere bli funnet. Ogs\u00e5: det er mulig \u00e5 bygge st\u00f8rre lag, raskt.<\/li><li><strong>Koste:<\/strong> Prisene har holdt seg de siste \u00e5rene, selv om det var rykter som ville \u00f8ke raskt.<\/li><li><strong>Stabilitet:<\/strong> Problemet med Pakistan kan v\u00e6re der. Sannheten er at de er v\u00e5re br\u00f8dre og s\u00f8stre \ud83d\ude42 Den brukes bare til politiske gevinster (valg).<\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Ulemper:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><strong>Bedrageriske selskaper er der:<\/strong> Noen selskaper sliter med \u00e5 betale regningene. De vil gi l\u00f8fter de ikke kan holde og tilby sub-par kvalitet.<\/li><li><strong>Gjennomsnittlig koderkvalitet:<\/strong> Hvis du ikke ser p\u00e5 absolutte tall, men i gjennomsnitt, vil selvf\u00f8lgelig Ukraina v\u00e6re bedre. Men som jeg nevnte tidligere, m\u00e5 vi se p\u00e5 absolutte tall.<\/li><li><strong>Kvinnens sikkerhet:<\/strong> Dette er et problem som ikke h\u00e5ndteres ordentlig p\u00e5 subkontinentet.<\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Du kan ogs\u00e5 finne litt mer informasjon om sammenligningen her<a href=\"https:\/\/www.software-developer-india.com\/no\/ukraina-versus-india-hvilket-er-det-beste-stedet-for-outsourcing\/\"><u> Ukraina versus India: Hvilket er det beste stedet for outsourcing?<\/u><\/a> (det er et blogginnlegg p\u00e5 nettstedet v\u00e5rt)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Min erfaring<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Fordi jeg driver et outsourcingfirma i India, har jeg kanskje en tendens til \u00e5 argumentere for subkontinentet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Men jeg jobber ogs\u00e5 kontinuerlig med land og selskaper fra Europa.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Det jeg ser er at n\u00e5r det gjelder utvikling av backend (PHP, Laravel, ASPNET, Magento, WordPress, etc.), er kundene vanligvis forn\u00f8yde. N\u00e5r det gjelder utvikling av frontend (HTML, CSS, brukervennlighet, brukergrensesnitt, UX), er S\u00f8r-Asia vanligvis ikke s\u00e5 sterke.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Men generelt jobber vi vanligvis i mange \u00e5r med de samme kundene, noe som viser at de er forn\u00f8yde med tjenestene.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Endelig konklusjon<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Jeg likte svaret fra Nazar Kvartalnyi<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Ukraina er bedre n\u00e5r det gjelder kommunikasjon, kultur og geografisk n\u00e6rhet og kvalitet. For \u00e5 v\u00e6re sikker er selve utviklingen og kvaliteten alltid i h\u00f8yeste prioritet, men det er kommunikasjonen som driver begge parter til ett m\u00f8tepunkt.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Det er definitivt fordeler med dette landet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Du m\u00e5 stille deg selv disse sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5lene for \u00e5 bestemme:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><strong>Hvor viktig er tidsforskjellen?<\/strong> (1 time, Ukraina eller 3,5 timer India) Trenger de virkelig \u00e5 jobbe nesten i samme tidssone, eller er det 4 til 5 timer om dagen nok?<\/li><li><strong>Hva er budsjettet ditt?<\/strong> (Hvis du kan bruke 4000 til 8000 amerikanske dollar i m\u00e5neder for en utvikler, er \u00d8st-Europa bedre)<\/li><li><strong>Er du klar til \u00e5 akseptere kulturelle forskjeller?<\/strong> (\u00d8st-Europa er n\u00e6rmere kulturelt. Men s\u00f8r-asiater er heller ikke romvesener :))<\/li><li><strong>Trenger du \u00e5 bygge st\u00f8rre lag?<\/strong> (Da er S\u00f8r-Asia med sin store kandidatmasse det bedre valget. Det er vanligvis til og med mulig \u00e5 finne mennesker som er lett tilgjengelige i arbeidsmarkedet)<\/li><li><strong>Har du ikke tid til \u00e5 velge kandidater?<\/strong> (I S\u00f8r-Asia m\u00e5 du beregne tiden for \u00e5 velge gode kandidater, se absolutte tall kontra prosent. I Ukraina er sjansen st\u00f8rre for at du vil finne gode mennesker raskt)<\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Lykke til!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Noe interessant artikkel:<br><a href=\"https:\/\/igniteoutsourcing.com\/publications\/india-vs-ukraine-software-outsourcing\/\"><u>Dette er hva ignietoutsourcing sier<\/u><\/a><br><a href=\"https:\/\/www.n-ix.com\/top-outsourcing-destinations-ukraine-vs-india\/\"><u>Sammenligning av de to destinasjonene for outsourcing<\/u><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Bildekilde: Canva<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignleft\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.software-developer-india.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-229\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Forfatteren: Sascha Thattil jobber p\u00e5 Software-Developer-India.com som er en del av YUHIRO Group. 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